The most influential Catholic prelate in Ireland has one year left as a bishop - has he any regrets?
Patrick to get there. That, to the sort of people who were going to come, elderly people or people with families, put them off. Then it started to rain.
“There’s a great affection for the Church , but there was a certain anger against the Church and it wasn’t just anger at the fact that children were abused but anger at the way it was looked after. There are people in Ireland who are angry because they went along with it. It’s not just that they are angry because of what happened.
Q. The religious congregations haven’t fulfilled their commitments, either their 2002 indemnity deal with the State or commitments given to the government following publication of the Ryan report in 2009?“They haven’t. I’m very worried by Towards Healing . It is a very good service. It doesn’t attract much attention. They do their own thing. It has been a lifeline for many, many survivors. It’s co-funded. It was co-funded in a way which wasn’t entirely …I paid far more towards it.
“The numbers are going down. After the Pope’s visit numbers went up which means the hurt is out there. We’re also going to have a group of people who, sadly, will never be healed. Again, it’s not their fault. Very often they were abused because they were vulnerable people. The normal rules about counselling - you shouldn’t become addicted to counselling, there should be a cut-off date - and there are going to be very angry people and we just have to accept their anger.
“This Pope I didn’t know at all. The first time I met him face-to-face as the Pope he said to me, ‘I’ll always remember our meeting in Quebec.’ I came away thinking he’s mixing me up with somebody else. Then I realised what it was. At the Eucharistic Congress in Quebec, they had every day two tables. A local Archbishop would invite people.
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