The former Tory MP on the Brexit vote, serving as minister under David Cameron and Theresa May, and running against Johnson for the party leadership
The former Conservative MP talks about the Brexit vote, serving as minister under David Cameron and Theresa May, and running against Johnson for the party leadershipFrom politics tompodcasting: Rory Stewart, former Conservative MP and minister under British prime ministers David Cameron and Theresa May. Photograph: David Levenson/Getty Imageshas been an academic, diplomat, aid worker, author, broadcaster, soldier and politician.
Is that new, or has it always been thus? Because the parties have been around for a long time and the electoral system has been around more than 100 years now. But you stuck with it and were re-elected in the 2015 general election which led inexorably to the Brexit referendum the following year. You are a Remainer, but you sensed the swell of pro-Brexit sentiment in your own constituency as the referendum approached.
Exactly. And I think this is part of the problem of politics, which is that it’s all very well operating on a superficial level, thinking that you can fix everything just by making rational arguments. There is deep emotion, deep identity, deep communities, deep histories. Oh, it’d be horrifying. Whatever the rights or wrongs of debates about supermajorities, you’ve got to take the history into account, and you can’t promise people that they can do it on a simple majority and then change the rules. So if you’re asking me whether it’s remotely acceptable for the junior Northern Island minister to suggest that they’re going to change the rules around what it takes, that seems to me to be incredibly politically provocative and dangerous.
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